Will eBay's Feedback 2.0 Be a Headache for Sellers?
The eBay Seller's News,
April 2007, Volume 7, No. 4
Learn How To Sell More on eBay with The
Newsletter for Professional
eBay Sellers by: Skip McGrath
In This Issue:
Musings
- Will eBay's Feedback 2.0 Be a Headache for Sellers
- eBay Niche of the Month: Antique Art Prints
- Increase eBay Profits with Second Chance Offer
- Update and Correct Your Contact Info To Avoid Being Shut Down by eBay
- Is eBay Getting Fewer Eyeballs and What Does This Mean for Sellers?
- Will eBay Start Issuing IRS 1099 Forms To Sellers?
- New Wholesale Sources for April 2007
"Motivation will almost always beat mere talent."
Norman R. Augustine
Musings
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Right after Al Gore won an Oscar for his movie, Inconvenient Truth ,
it was revealed that his house in Tennessee consumes as much energy in one month
as twenty average houses. Al explained this was not a problem because he
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I thought to myself, "hmmmmm, I wonder if I could buy carbon credits on eBay?"
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If you follow the news you know there was a major hack of a national credit
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made it into eBay where they were able to access thousands of accounts. This is
becoming a huge problem and it's only going to get worse. If you do become a
victim of identity theft it can ruin your credit for years, tie up money in your
bank accounts for months and cost you thousands of dollars.
I was hit last year by an identity theft fraud that I managed to catch in time
before they did any damage. But I had to cancel all of my credit --and debit
cards, change the cards on my eBay and PayPal account and change all of my
important online passwords. It was a real pain in the you know what.
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it like insurance. The downside can be much greater.
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How To Create and Sell
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description if you want your items to sell on eBay. But I always get email from
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Let's get started with this month's issue:
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1. Will eBay's Feedback 2.0 Be a Headache for Sellers?
Feedback 2.0 is the first major change to the eBay feedback system in ten
years. eBay decided to use our friends in the UK and Australia as a beta test
before rolling it out in the North American market.
The biggest change is the ability of buyers to rate sellers on shipping,
communications and item description using a 5-star system --but the rating is
completely anonymous --you have no idea which buyer rated you or why. So a buyer
could leave you positive feedback, even post a nice comment and then hit you
with a one-star rating. The other major change is that the item purchased and
the purchase price shows up alongside the feedback comment.
Here is a screenshot from one UK seller that shows the system at work. I am
sorry about the quality, but I had to reduce the size so the screen wouldn't
scroll. If you want to see more examples, just log onto eBay.co.uk and click on
any member's feedback number. You can also do a search for your own username and
see what you'll look like soon on the US site.

Notice that this seller has a 100% feedback score but less than
a 5-star rating on communications, dispatch (shipping) time and postage.
I spent some time reading and posting on the UK message boards and came away
with some mixed feelings about FB 2.0 from UK buyers and sellers.
In general, buyers love it and most --but not all, sellers hate it. FB 2.0 makes
it easy to see a snapshot of how the seller is actually doing business. Buyers
love the anonymity of it (knowing they can't get slammed with a negative
feedback in retaliation for being honest). However, some buyers are not so crazy
about having the item they bought and the price they paid splashed on their
Feedback Profile.
The reasons the buyers love Feedback 2.0 are the same reasons many sellers hate
it. One seller said "I'm in the process of finding out if this is in breach of
my human rights...eBay is my workplace [and] I am being graded and marked by
people anonymously. I am not informed why I am being graded as I am, and I have
no right to reply."
It's a valid point. Buyers can rate the seller however they want, but sellers
cannot rate buyers. The other problem is that buyers are not blocked from
commenting on an action even if the action didn't apply to that transaction. For
example, one seller of eBooks said he is getting low stars for the shipping cost
when the item isn't even shipped! Another seller offers free shipping for every
item she sells, yet is getting low stars on the postage score.
One seller remarked that there is no real guideline for buyers for making (or
reading) the ratings, "People's opinions differ wildly over what constitutes
good, bad or average. We've had people saying they will start with 5 stars and
only knock some off for very bad service - and we've had others saying they will
start out by awarding 3 stars and only add an extra star if the service is out
of this world."
Another seller noted: "Danger is that people who are satisfied will leave
feedback but not use star ratings, while those with a gripe will. If this
happens then the ratings will not be a true reflection through a lack of fives.
If there is a star system then it should be compulsory."
Most of the sellers who posted had a negative opinion of the new system.
Although, to be fair, many sellers think this is a lot of hype and it will
settle down soon.
"It's a good feedback % score that will sway buyers, not that a seller hasn't
got 5 star ratings across the board," said one seller. Another said, "There was
a lot of concern here [on the message boards] about people loosing half a star
for one thing or another, but it's settled down now and I don't think that
anyone's sales have suffered because they have lost a star. It's the other
issues going on that are loosing people sales."
It's the first time eBay has made a drastic change to the feedback system and at
the moment any rating is going to make an impact on a seller's overall star
level. Probably the most negative thing about this system is that it will hurt
the small or occasional seller more than the large sellers with high volumes.
My advice is to continue selling as you always have been. Write complete
descriptions, give excellent customer service, ship items quickly and in good
packaging (and don't overcharge for it), and always describe your items
honestly. With Feedback 2.0 even the best sellers will never achieve a perfect
5-star rating.
So what is my take on Feedback 2.0? If you strive to give good service it will
probably not matter in the long run because within a few months after 2.0 goes
live in North America, buyers will see that even top sellers only have a 4-star
rating and they will think it's normal. I guess what I am trying to say is the
whole star thing is a total waste or time and resources that could have been
applied somewhere where it would really matter. I seriously doubt it it will
improve the buying experience in the long run or contribute anything substantial
to growing the user base. Personally I think eBay is reacting to competition
from Amazon and someone thought the star system would appeal to Amazon users.
There is no question that FB 2.0 will be rolled out soon in the US --probably
with a few minor tweaks, but it's coming. And it doesn't matter if sellers like
it or not. Once eBay starts a project like this it's like a snowball rolling
down hill --there is just no stopping it. The sad part about this is that it is
so unnecessary. eBay is fixing the part of the feedback system that isn't
broken, and ignoring the parts that are, such as protecting sellers from
malicious and retaliatory feedback.
My final comment is on timing. I could be wrong, but I suspect we will not see
FB 2.0 until after eBay Live in June. Sellers outnumber buyer-only members at
eBay Live by a huge margin and eBay likes to maintain a "feel good" atmosphere
at eBay Live. I doubt if they want the controversy 2.0 will engender, spoiling
the event. But, as I said I could be wrong. So we have a little time to give
input to eBay before they roll it out here. My advice is to spend some time on
eBay UK, read the message posts and form your own opinion. Then start some posts
on eBay US. eBay does read the boards and this is a great way to send them your
opinion.
I have started a thread
here that you can add to, but be sure and look at 2.0 on eBay UK (or eBay
Australia) first, so you have a good understanding of how Feedback 2.0 works
before commenting.
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2. eBay Niche Market of the Month - Selling Antique Art Prints
This is not a new niche on eBay and it's not really that small of a niche,
but it is one of those markets where you can get started for very little money,
the sell through rate is very high and the profit potential is anywhere from
100% to over 1000% on each sale.
Here are a couple of screenshots from eBay's completed auctions of recent print
sales (each of these shots represent just a few days):

The shot above shows auctions in the Antique Prints category that closed over
a 9-day period. As you can see the sell through rate in this range is 100%. When
the price gets above $100 or below $25, the sell through rates drop steeply, so
its a matter of finding the sweet spot.
OK - so how much do these prints cost and where can you find them? Most of them
come from old books and magazines. An old book or magazine can cost as little as
$1.00 --although the better ones --with more and higher quality prints can cost
as much as $50 --but these can have as many as several dozen prints in each one
that can sell for prices between $25 and $100 each.
Here is another shot. These sales average about $20 less than the ones above,
but still very profitable when you consider that you can find these prints at
prices between $1.00 and $10.00.

I don't have enough room here to explain all the ins and outs of this
fabulous money-making eBay niche, but an English lady by the name of Avril
Harper has written an excellent book called
Make Money
Tearing Up Old Books and Magazines and Selling Them on eBay. This is a great
book with all the details. I am not currently doing this on eBay, but I did use
this method a few years ago and I can attest that it is very profitable. Best of
all, Avril is the real deal. She is doing this today and will show you exactly
how to find the material and how to sell it on eBay.
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3. Increase eBay Profits with Second Chance Offer
Back in 2004 eBay introduced a new feature called the Second Chance
Offer (SCO). Although it has been around for almost three years, and is a
fantastic way to increase your sales and profits --very few sellers bother to
use it.
Originally the SCO was designed to offer the second highest bidder the chance to
buy at their losing bid price in the event the winning bidder did not pay and
became what eBay calls a Non-Paying Bidder (NPB).
The feature was very successful, and in late 2004 eBay modified and expanded the
feature so that you could offer an under bidder on an auction a second chance
bid in the event you had more than one identical items to sell. (This method
doesn't work for one of a kind items. It works when you have identical
merchandise to sell.
Here is an example from a recent auction for one of my Rachel Ray Knife sets I
sell on eBay. These were the bids I received. The last three all came in the
last few minutes of the auction.
Bidder
Al
Betty
Charlie
Al
Betty
Al
David
Al
David
Charlie
Betty |
Amount Bid
19.99
21.00
22.50
23.55
24.05
44.60
60.00
69.05
94.55
98.00
99.23 |
OK. Betty wins the knife set for $99.23. But, I am happy to sell at any price
over $89.00 and I have plenty of the knives in stock.
So I now offer offer both David and Charlie a second chance offer to buy a knife
set at the price they bid. David would get his for $94.55 and Charlie would get
his for $98.00. Here is the best part: You would pay eBay the final value fee on
all three sales, but you only pay the listing fee on the set that Betty, the
highest bidder, won. More importantly, you have sold three items for a total
value of $291.78 for the time, effort and fees of placing only one auction.
The second chance offer is very simple to use. When an auction ends, you simply
click on Second Chance Offer on your item sold page. A new page will come up
with the auction number populated. Click “continue” and you will go to a page
with the usernames of the under bidders. Put a check mark next to the ones you
want to receive an offer and eBay sends them a link to a special page where they
click on the “Accept” link if they want to buy. When they do this, a PayPal
window opens up and they just have to click to buy if they want to pay via
PayPal.
There are several advantages to the SCO. First is the fee savings. Next is that
you do not have to tip your hand that you have more than one item –so the
perception of scarcity is preserved in the auction format. Also is the fact that
you get to make three sales from one auction listing. If your acceptable margin
had allowed you to accept any bids over $69.00, then you could have even had a
fourth sale to Al who bid $69.05.
One problem is that a lot of eBay bidders have not heard of the SCO and don't
understand it. I have even spoken with some folks that think it's spam or a
scam. There isn't much you can do about this except encourage eBay to spread the
word more to their members. What you don't want to do is put a note in your
auction description telling people you send out SCOs. If I saw that I would not
want to be the high bidder in an auction. because I would know I could get it
cheaper by waiting.
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4. Update and Correct Your Contact Info To Avoid Being Shut Down by eBay
I often get email from eBay sellers who tell me their account was shut down
by eBay for no apparent reason. But when I explain how to file an appeal and
they eventually get their account reinstated the reason often turns out to be
that they had invalid or incorrect contact information on their eBay and/or
their PayPal account.
eBay is in the middle of a very aggressive anti-fraud campaign. Since there are
literally millions of items listed on eBay at any given moment eBay has to rely
on software that hunts for anomalies. One of the anomalies they look for is
incorrect contact info. Also, other members can --and will, report you if they
see incorrect or obviously phony info.
So if you have moved, or had a name change due to marriage or divorce, or gotten
a new phone number or changed your email address, be sure and go into BOTH your
eBay account and your PayPal account and update the information. It also really
helps if you have the same email address (but not the same password) in both
eBay and as your primary PayPal address. I have seen lots of issues arise that
confuses both buyers and sellers when they are getting eBay related email from
one address and PayPal payments or payment request from another.
The other thing that makes you a target for eBay scrutiny is selling items that
are high on their fraud watch list. These would include any expensive name-brand
designer item, items that are routinely faked (counterfeit merchandise) such as
Nike shoes or rare coins. If you sell in these categories, you can bet eBay will
be taking a close look at your auctions.
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5. Is eBay getting fewer eyeballs and What Does It Mean for Sellers?
Not too long ago eBay was the third or fourth most visited web site on the
planet, but today they have dropped to number 16. I often here from critics that
the drop is proof that eBay is losing business, but this is not really the case.
Here is the current list according to Alexa:
1. yahoo.com
2. msn.com
3. google.com
4. youtube.com
5. myspace.com
6. live.com
7. baidu.com (Chinese search engine)
8. orkut.com
9. qq.com (Japanese)
10. wikipedia.org |
11. yahoo.co.jp
12. sina.com.cn
13. microsoft.com
14. megaupload.com
15. blogger.com
16. ebay.com
17. hi5.com
18. google.co.uk
19. sohu.com
20. news163.com (Chinese) |
What the falling ranking means to eBay sellers it is a bit misleading because
the sites that have pushed eBay out of the top are mostly web sites that don't
sell anything. They are search sites like Google or social networking sites like
myspace, orkut or youtube.
Also, some of these sites are foreign. When you look at the US only, eBay ranks
number 5 behind Yahoo, Google, MySpace and MSN. The next site where goods and
services are sold is Craigslist (owned by eBay) at number 9 and you finally get
to Amazon at number 11. The other eBay sites half.com and ebay.express.com rank
way down the list, but if you were to add their traffic to eBay, it would
probably push eBay up a couple of notches in the worldwide listing and maybe as
high as fourth in the US.
I hear about a lot of sellers moving to Amazon, but if they are, they aren't
getting as many eyeballs as they get on eBay. I have spoken with some sellers
who are reportedly doing well on Amazon and others who are not. I think it
depends on the product. I have products listed in three categories on Amazon and
only one of them is doing well --but still not as well as I do on eBay.
Clearly if you sell one of a kind items, eBay is the place to be. But if you
sell new merchandise where you can get ample supply, it doesn't make sense to
leave eBay, but you may want to expand into additional channels such as Amazon.
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6. Will eBay Start Issuing IRS 1099 Forms To Sellers?
If you own a business and you pay money to someone for services, the IRS
requires you to issue a 1099 form that shows how much income you paid to
someone.
For example at the end of each year I have to prepare and issue a 1099 to my web
master who is an independent contractor. During the year I also earn affiliate
income from various companies whose services I recommend. Those companies will
send me a 1099 form. When you prepare and send a 1099 form, you also have to
send a copy to the IRS. This way the IRS knows who is earning money. So, for
example, at the end of the year I have to declare my gross income on my tax form
and I put a copy of each 1099 I receive in with my tax return so the IRS can see
that I claimed the income that someone else paid me.
eBay does not issue 1099 forms for the simple reason that eBay doesn't pay you
any money. When you sell something on eBay, it is the buyer that pays you and
they are not required to file tax forms on purchases. So it would seem simple
that eBay (or PayPal who actually sends the money) would not have to file a 1099
form. Well my congressman, Rick Larsen (D-WA), and many other congress members
don't think it should be this way. They want to re-write the tax law so at least
eBay or PayPal (or both) would have to report how much you sold in a year. This
could take the form of a 1099 or some other type of notice.
I am sure there are a few people selling on eBay who have made some money and
not claimed it on their taxes. The same thing happens when millions of Americans
have a garage sale every year. However, most serious eBay sellers pay their
taxes, and I haven't seen any news stories about eBay sellers being prosecuted
for not doing so --so where's the problem? The problem is that there are always
some busybodies in congress looking to make a name for themselves and someone
had an idea that eBay sellers might be a new source of revenue. So look for this
issue to gain traction. What you can do is go to:
http://www.house.gov/writerep.
From this page you can find your representative and send them an email. Tell
them you are an eBay seller, that you already pay your taxes every year and you
don't need any additional paperwork or regulations to help you do so.
While you are at it, you might throw in a comment about net neutrality. The big
telecom companies are paying off your congress members with political donations
to get them to create a two-tiered internet where you would have to pay tolls or
fees to have the same access you have to the internet now. I don't have room
here to discuss this whole issue, but if you Google "net neutrality" you will
get plenty of information.
Just write a short simple message like "please keep your hands off of my eBay
business and support a free open internet" and they will know what you are
talking about.
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7. New Wholesale Sources for April 2007
This is the time of year it pays to be careful with your sourcing. Remember we are coming into the summer slowdown where sales of some goods can drop as much as 20%. If you are buying for fairly immediate shipment and selling then go for it. But if you are buying a large quantity of goods, just realize that in the slower selling periods (Mid June-Late August) that it may take you longer to turn the merchandise over.
Brooks Tree Farm sells a large variety of tree seedlings at prices starting at 35-cents per tree in lots of 100 trees each. If you would like to sell carbon offset credits on eBay here is a link to the complete catalog in PDF. Be patient it takes about 1 minute to download.
Ela's Gallery sells a beautiful line of silk scarves, handbags and sterling silver scarf clasps. This is very nice stuff and I haven't seen anything like this on eBay.
Another popular line of handbags is The Maggie Brown Collection. I haven't seen these on eBay yet, so if you jump on them you could be first.
BabyBeReady is the trendiest way to tote baby's 1st year essentials. All in one pre-packed diaper bag survival kit. The Dish-n-dat bag is the hippest travel/cosmetic bag owned by all the hollywood celebrities. The Baby Be Ready website is retail, but you can email
sales@babydish.com for dealer information.
C. B. Distributing is a wholesale electronics distributor specializing in personal communications and accessories. They distribute over 5,000 different products in citizen band (CB) & 10 meter radio, marine radio, police scanners, GPS, radar detection, cordless telephone and audio/visual categories and will sell to e-commerce resellers.
Headline Products is a large distributor of tools, automotive products, home and garden products and personal care products.
Daron is The largest source of aviation toys models and collectibles, serving the aviation industry, independent toy, & hobby retailers.
Kenetic (a division of Pathway Corp.) is a manufacturer and distributor of a high quality line of steel cookware.
Axis International is an Australian company that sells a patented line of unique functional home storage and organizational
items. Contact them through the website for dealer information.
The Fulfillment Force is a manufactures rep for several lines of kitchen products. Their web site isn't real helpful, but if you fill out the dealer application they will send you catalogs and get other information to you.
That's it for this month.
Skip McGrath
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